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Clean Factory vs Noob Factory in 2026: Two Closed Leaders and What Replaced Them

Clean FactoryvsNoob Factory
Two luxury black-dial diving watches with stainless-steel bracelets, one with refined finishing, on a matte black surface
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Clean Factory vs Noob Factory compares two former leaders that are both out of the picture in 2026. Noob closed after the 2021 raids, and r/RepTime members reported a raid on Clean in July 2025. Both names still appear on listings, as "Noob V2" or "FNF" and as "Clean Plus" or leftover Clean stock, but no source links these watches to the original factories. For the Rolex models that both once led, the May 2026 community guide ranks VSF first.

Clean Factory vs Noob Factory: the table

Clean FactoryNoob Factory
Status, October 2026Reported raided in July 2025; the February 2026 guide update removed it, and one "Clean*" row remains in May 2026Closed since the 2021 raids; "Noob (Closed)" in the May 2026 guide
Led the community onRolex sports models until 2025The Submariner and the 4130 clone Daytona until 2021
MovementsVR3235 and SH3235; Dandong movements in other linesA 4130 clone made by a Dandong movement factory in the Daytona
The name today"Clean Plus", announced by a dealer account in September 2025"Noob V2" and "FNF" (Fake Noob Factory), seen since late 2024
Link to the originalNot verifiedNot verified

How each one ended

Noob, 2021. In August 2021 members wrote that dealers saw almost no chance of a return, and that the Dandong factory that made the 4130 clone was also searched. A member wrote that Noob led the Submariner until VSF released its 116610 with the VS3135.

Clean, 2025. On July 14, 2025, members reported the raid, and one wrote: "My TD confirmed many arrested." The February 2026 guide update "Removed all mentions of Clean Factory (sad day)". In July 2026 a reviewer on r/RepWatchForum wrote that seller claims of "old CLEAN stock" are "all probably a scam" at this point.

The names that remain

  • Noob V2 and FNF. In December 2024 a dealer account announced that "The legendary Noob Factory has officially returned". Members answered that the name had changed hands and that anyone could claim it. The May 2026 guide lists "Noob v2" only as the second choice for the Sky-Dweller.
  • Clean Plus. In September 2025 a dealer account introduced Clean Plus with the Dandong 3235 and said that new owners had taken over. Owner reports in 2026 are mixed, and in September 2026 one owner found what looked like an SH3235 in a Clean Plus Datejust 41.

What to buy instead in 2026

ModelFirst choice in the May 2026 guide
Submariner 126610VSF (3235 clone, NWBIG)
Submariner 116610VSF (3135 clone, NWBIG)
Daytona 116XXXVSF, QF free-sprung and BTF (all NWBIG)
Daytona 126500VSF (4131 clone, NWBIG)

Sources

All dates are the posting dates of the threads.

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